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WHEN COMICS WERE PISSED OFF
AND BLACK…


by Luca Boschi from Passioni Violente no. 3 (August 1987)

Andrea Pazienza is still one of the cartoonists most loved by young readers, those who, a good ten years ago now, were crazy about the stories published by the monthly Alter Alter, when it first brought to Italy the fantastic tales of Moebius and the big gang from the French magazine Metal Hurlant, or when it launched the neo-academy of Valvoline, a series of cartoonists attentive to the movements of fashion and design even more than to those of the small-big medium they had chosen, comics. When the enthusiasm for all these authors had long since died down and even the magazines willing to host them were slowly disappearing, Andrea Pazienza remained; he moved on his surfboard across the surface of the most diverse publications without ever getting too involved, and he kept (and keeps) going strong with his stories of violence and heroin, of desperation or mocking satire. Sex, in Andrea’s stories, is an element that is more or less always present, sometimes lived with irony but, more often, with a good dose of suffering and humiliation. Fertile ground for applying the old adage “homo homini lupus”.

The latest adventures of his best-known character, Zanardi, bear witness to this: a cocktail of everything frightening that can be found in a human being, whose negative character traits correspond, physically, to an assemblage of features that we are traditionally inclined to attribute to a sour, cruel, uncaring, irritating person, devoid of any crumb of altruism not directed at himself. what would it mean?

“Zanardi – says Andrea Pazienza – was born of the need to denounce the repeated assaults I suffered as a teenager from boys a little older than me, a little stronger, certainly more cunning, certainly more aggressive, I don’t know how much more intelligent. Anyway, nastiness also needs a certain intelligence and creativity. I believe each of us, deep down, has our own tormentor buried in our childhood memories and then perhaps repressed. I fished mine out and created a character who exists, whom we have all known not only in his psychology but also in his physical build”.

Recently, Pazienza has pushed the eroticism pedal a little harder than usual, producing for the small publisher Glamour the little book Pazeroticus in which he lets us in, once again with a good dose of irony, on his personal way of understanding eroticism. These are not morbidly erotic illustrations, but drawings whose main feature is serenity.

“ I dashed them off very quickly in San Menaio, my hometown, in two days, and while doing them I was thinking of all those situations that would have turned me on as a kid”.

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Actually, I know that one whole day went on the cover and you did everything else in the remaining day. Isn’t that rather little time to make a whole book?
For this Glamour thing I understood right away that they expected me to sweat, but I held out, and I saved my sweat for the long Zanardi and Colasanti stories, the ones I’m now publishing in Comic Art. Or for somewhat more demanding illustrations, like the covers I also did for Comic Art, which depict Moana Pozzi’s ass, God rest her in glory.

Why is there this new boom in erotic drawings, in popular publications (but that has always been there, since the ’60s) and especially of modest quality?
I don’t know, I know that erotic drawings, photographs, are mainly for masturbation.

When did you start?
Doing what?

Drawing, obviously.
Ah, right. But then we have to go back to prehistory! My mother claims I drew a bear that was recognizable as such at the age of eighteen months, which seems impossible to me, since I remember it very well myself, and that means I evidently wasn’t eighteen months old. Maybe I was eighteen years old.

In many of your big cartoons, from the start, in fact perhaps more a few years ago than now, you casually used very different techniques. You leafed through the pages and couldn’t imagine whether there’d be drawings in Pantone, wax crayon, pencil…

Using different techniques comes from my great untidiness. I can never remember the numbers of the soft and hard pencils, and sometimes I end up with rolls of pencils this big that I’ll never use; in fact, if anyone wants them I’ll give them away. I go to the stationery shop and buy. A bit of this, a bit of that, a hundred grams of the other… and then I go and draw. In the end it may happen that I start a story in marker and suddenly the last marker I have at home runs out. I look in the cupboards and there’s nothing left that makes even a vaguely similar mark, it’s half past seven in the evening and it’s Saturday. So I have no choice but to go on with whatever I find, trying to imitate the style I had up to the previous page, even if it means using a burnt match. Joking aside, I really use everything: pencils, brushes, my father’s paints – he’s a painter…

At a glance, many of your pages look like the mirror image of chaos, whereas on closer inspection you notice a certain precision in executing every tiny detail, and even a certain neatness.

When I started making comics I even toyed with the idea that there was a certain dose of mathematics in my pages. I arranged them following modules, I squared the sheet… And it would have been a great satisfaction for me to go to my old math teacher and show them to her: “Miss, look what I’ve done!” I never did very well in math at school. But she would have made a meaningful gesture and said, as usual: “Pazziè…”, sending me back to my seat. Actually, for each of those pages I now work like an archer trying somehow to hit the bull’s-eye.

Who is the popular Italian cartoonist you liked best and who contributed to your development?
Magnus.

Only him?
I could name others, but when I’ve said Magnus I’ve said it all.

The latest story published to date showed Zanardi and his gang raping a naive girl uglier than Sandra Mondaini. Will you stick to this hard line, where sex is the in-law cousin of abuse?
No, the story immediately after is a dream of Zanardi’s, all in color, which I think is rather beautiful. I was really fed up with drawing in black-and-white marker, and I think it showed; I wasn’t very happy with the results. In the last stories, words prevailed over the drawing in importance, whereas the one I was telling you about has no words at all. I’ve already talked to some psychologist friends, half seriously and half not, to show it to them: if Zanardi really had a dream like that and the dream could be interpreted, what would it mean?

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